Curse

Song Rui · May 04, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

Song Rui:Eviscerate, Executioner's Strike, Penetrating Blow, Tiger's Fury, Healing Signet, Sprint, Signet of Capture, Resurrection Signet.

Yes that is my current skillbar. Wouldn't it be great to let your party know your skillbar? You can finally kick that wammo with mending or the E/Me that uses echo fire storm. It would help both pvpers and pvers.

/signed

S!carius · May 04, 2006, 09:55 AM // 09:55

I think that this could be good for only one thing. Getting rid of solo monks joining 8 man groups for uw.

Kicking the wammo with mending may be useful in somecases, but sometimes mending can be quite usefull. Finding a group that doesn't want the cookie cutter build is hard enough, with this ability, there will be even more discrimination going on.

/NOT signed

Song Rui · May 04, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08

Edited by Ashleigh McMahon: Keep your bad comments to yourself.

Replicant · May 04, 2006, 10:36 AM // 10:36

/NOTsigned

Song Rui, you're asking for a flame war by posting what you said about mending. it'd be like me kicking you out of my group cause you were bringing troll unguent.. theres nothing wrong with mending and actually helps out the Monks with helping neutralize degen and have a constant healing.. I personally always run Mending + Balth. Spirit, but i really don't care if you don't like it.

*edited to /NOTsigned*

Sidra · May 04, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

/Notsigned. There is nothing wrong with mending, and some wammos are quite useful. Anyway. This is useless. It's just another way to discriminate and have builds stolen by forcing members to show their skillbars.

Edited by Ashleigh McMahon: Keep bad comments out, please.

Song Rui · May 04, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

Laff. Troll Ungeunt > Mending. I'd never use Troll Ungeunt anyway. Only self heal a warrior should ever bring is healing-signet. Warriors need energy for their defensive stances. +3 Health Regeneration is NOTHING. Go ahead, keep talking about your godly skill, known as mending.

Song Rui · May 04, 2006, 10:53 AM // 10:53

Oh come on. This game is all about cookie cutters. Otherwise we wouldn't have 5000+ wammos with mending and power attack. This is not an anti mending petition, I was using mending as an example seeing as so many wammo cookie cutters run it, and they are usually more of a burden than a help to the party.

Sidra · May 04, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

The suggestion would never go through either way.

Malice Black · May 04, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

/signed

good idea

Replicant · May 04, 2006, 11:28 AM // 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Song Rui

Laff. Troll Ungeunt > Mending. I'd never use Troll Ungeunt anyway. Only self heal a warrior should ever bring is healing-signet. Warriors need energy for their defensive stances. +3 Health Regeneration is NOTHING. Go ahead, keep talking about your godly skill, known as mending.

have you ever played as a W/Mo? I have 27 Energy I do 2 Enchant Spells which Keep my Health and Energy bars maxed out.. I have no problem ever with energy so whatever problems you have with energy is your own fault... btw.. they made the Zealous Mod for a reason... if i ever do have problems with energy i switch to my zealous and normal attack... if i have things attackin me melee i put up bonetties and problem solved.

and i agree with the past people.
*retracts original /signed and switches it to /notsigned*

Edited by Ashleigh McMahon: Blooming hell, isn't this a flame bait.

Hockster · May 04, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Song Rui

Laff. Troll Ungeunt > Mending. I'd never use Troll Ungeunt anyway. Only self heal a warrior should ever bring is healing-signet. Warriors need energy for their defensive stances. +3 Health Regeneration is NOTHING. Go ahead, keep talking about your godly skill, known as mending.

Wild Blow>Stances

Troll is a good self heal id you have points into expertise to reduce the energy cost. But you're a warrior, no expertise.

Nine or ten second stances with 45-60 second cooldowns? Stances are great if you know for a fact they won't be ended early. Unless you'r using ranger stances, which means putting points into your secondary attribute line. That also means you're less effective at dealing damage.

In case you don't get it, I'm not defending mending, even though in the right situation it is a very viable skill. Just don't paint yourself further into a corner by not seeing the whole story.

/not signed either

AydenV2 · May 04, 2006, 11:40 AM // 11:40

A nice /slase command for displaying your guild bar would be a welcomed addition I think.

Nothing fancy, just the names of the skills.

Song Rui · May 04, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant

have you ever played as a W/Mo? I have 27 Energy I do 2 Enchant Spells which Keep my Health and Energy bars maxed out.. I have no problem ever with energy so whatever problems you have with energy is your own fault... btw.. they made the Zealous Mod for a reason... if i ever do have problems with energy i switch to my zealous and normal attack... if i have things attackin me melee i put up bonetties and problem solved.

Using Mending limits your weapon damage/stances lengths. In later areas, enchantment removal is rampant, thus your mending is easily stripped and you are left without your precious +3 pips of health. And recasting it is a huge hit to your energy pool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant

*retracts original /signed and switches it to /notsigned*

No need to flame. I was merely using Mending as an example. Mending hurts your characters ability, which is bad. I'd much rather have a wammo running Watchful Spirit + Balthazars spirit or using Purge Signet with Succor. Wammos like that are a much more helpful addition to the party. And I wouldn't just kick them, I'd give them tips and tell them to change a few skills. I've done it before, if they comply, they can run with us. But many times I am partyed with an E/Me using Fire storm and ruining all the aggro. This would give us a chance to HELP these people!

Edited by Ashleigh McMahon: Flame....

Song Rui · May 04, 2006, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

Wild Blow>Stances

Apart from jade armor, I don't see anything else running Wild Blow ingame. If you use Defensive Warrior stances in PvP, then you need to be shot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

Troll is a good self heal id you have points into expertise to reduce the energy cost. But you're a warrior, no expertise.

Troll = Wilderness survival. Easily interrupted in PvP/PvE and is regen! Regen isn't good. You want direct heals. That is why you should bring Healing signet as a warrior. You can cover the -armor bonus with armor boosting skills like Dolyak Signet. It is also easily interrupted, but you can cover it with stances. Only thing that'll get you here is CoF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

Nine or ten second stances with 45-60 second cooldowns? Stances are great if you know for a fact they won't be ended early. Unless you'r using ranger stances, which means putting points into your secondary attribute line. That also means you're less effective at dealing damage.

Shield Stance and Defensive stance is all you need. Endgame your primary job is playing tank. Damage is your second worry. These two combined with a monk bringing healing seed and your set. Of course you can't count on the monk bringing it unless you know their skillbar!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

In case you don't get it, I'm not defending mending, even though in the right situation it is a very viable skill. Just don't paint yourself further into a corner by not seeing the whole story.

/not signed either

Simply because you disagree with me on the mending point? You haven't given any reason to anti sign.

minor · May 04, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Stop the crap about mending and everything else plz; this is a good idea.
I have gotten so sick of asking or being asked to type out my skillbar, particulary in HA.
This would be a great option, theres so many ppl wasting time typing out skill bars and lying about it sometimes

.

/signed

bilateralrope · May 04, 2006, 11:55 AM // 11:55

In PvE this will be abused forcing people to run cookie cutter builds or nothing. However in PvP, it would be very useful to make sure everyone is running the build you asked them to instead of saying they are running your build, but instead running something else.

/signed on the condition that it only works in PvP outposts.

baz777 · May 04, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08

/signed

Agree, good idea

mariano · May 04, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Song Rui

Song Rui:Eviscerate, Executioner's Strike, Penetrating Blow, Tiger's Fury, Healing Signet, Sprint, Signet of Capture, Resurrection Signet.

Yes that is my current skillbar. Wouldn't it be great to let your party know your skillbar? [/QUOTE]

/signed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Song Rui

You can finally kick that wammo with mending or the E/Me that uses echo fire storm. It would help both pvpers and pvers.

/not signed

Terra Xin · May 04, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

This has been suggetsed before, and the majority of people who responded answered like this:

/notsigned.

Look for the thread yourself, its here somewhere.

Song Rui · May 04, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28

I see that the greatest factor for anti signing is elitism and the ability to only run cookie cutters. Well guess what?

If a farm group is looking for an SS necromancer, they are looking for an SS necromancer. Not an MM. If you want to join their group, you must be a cookie cutter SS necromancer. Well? How is the skillbar issue going to affect anything?
You don't get to choose what you want to run here unless you are in control of the party.

In missions, anything goes. They don't really care what you're running. It doesn't matter here.

In PvP, you play to win. They can't afford to have a Shock Warrior running with Cleave because he hasn't unlocked Eviscerate yet.